UFO Propulsion
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've been wandering around the net for the past several weeks and have come to the inevitable conclusion that ... it's time to close my mind on the topic of flying saucers. They're heeeere ... and that's that. I will no longer entertain the idea that people are in general "confused" about what they see. They are seeing just what they say they are seeing and it is not from this planet. And that is just about what you would expect if travel between planets is possible. After billions of years ... the galaxy is already completely explored and colonized wherever feasible. So any "rational-scientific" discussion of the subject is now, here, officially over. If you do not think UFOs could be real and wish to discuss their unreality ... you must seek confirmation of your view elsewhere.

The next topic is the mechanism of travel. And on this I have almost closed my mind (but not quite) to the idea that UFOs obey the laws of physics as we now understand them. We're most likely going to have to revise the ground floor of physics. Namely, the "BIG THREE" ...

Conservation of Energy
Consevation of Linear Momentum
Conservation of Angular Momentum

Incidently, the only time I've ever "re-opened" my mind on any issue is the possible non-conservation of the Big Three. Several decades ago it was open ... then gradually closed due to the vast repository of evidence and its integration into a consistent scheme of physics. Now, because of UFOs, I must re-evaluate my longstanding position of absolute confidence.

The big problem here is not that they might be violated. I suppose that they could be violated in the statistical sense ... but HOW does one weight probability in favor of a macroscopic violation? For instance, an object might just fly across the room of its own accord if the probability of its being in another place were to suddenly change, i.e. the probablility of an individual atomic particle to be "here" changes all the time ... it's just that over time the other possibilities cancel out, so it just stays approximately in the same place ... hence, all objects stay where you put them unless pushed away in accordance with the known conservation laws as set forth by Newton. Newton, whose discoveries are "most sensible", must be wrong in some fashion. We must be able to circumvent them in artificial ways while, in nature, they are always obeyed.

This brings me to ...

The Table Top Experiment

Suppose our aliens give us a little model UFO. Certainly they could do this if they so desired. After all, they have vehicles the size of the Empire State Building down to basketball size. So, they've given you a little "sport model" about as big as the Testor's model ... maybe 12 inches in diameter.

Does it work? Can it work? Hell, yes. Maybe it only does 500 mph instead of 17,000 mph but what the hay ... it works. It floats in the air on your desk while you control it with a Wii Stick ... something like that. My question is this ... if you take it apart ... what's on the inside? Is it really necessary to have exotic materials to break the above conservation laws? Would the key to breaking them (in principle) be at all in the materials themselves ... or ... is it in the arrangement of those materials? Do we need to have exotic metals to violate the laws of mechanics or do we just need those materials to violate those laws more effectively?

In my view, the materials merely enhance the effect and do not cause it. The effect itself must lie (as judged from observer statements) with the electromagnetic field. That is, somehow, we can construct a field to counter the gravitational-inertial field. Thus, when you place and object in a gravitational field, the probability of its moving downward in that field increases and when you let it go it moves to a new more probable location (on the floor). This is well understood ... but ... this change does not violate any conservation law. It occurs within the framework of the Standard Model of physics. As the object falls, the earth is drawn up to it as well albeit to an imperceptible extent and the center of mass remains stationary as required by Conservation of Linear Momentum.

For a UFO to hover noiselessly, without generating a "wind" and still operate within the Standard Model, it must push off on something. And the only apparently available pushee is the earth itself. But the problem here, in my view, is that the UFOs "slip" sideways with great alacrity as though movement perpendicular to the earth's gravitational field and thus perpendicular to the earth's center of mass, are "no problemo" technical feats. They don't seem to give a rat's butt about their orientation relative to any massive object. Hence, my tentative conclusion is that the body of the earth has no importance to the direction of acceleration and further that their propulsion system is entirely "self-contained", i.e. it would work anywhere in space just as well as near the earth.

The Nitty Gritty

If a UFO has a self-contained propulsion system, it doesn't obey classical physics. We can throw linear momentum conservation out the window along with angular momentum and energy conservation and to hell with Tsiolkovsky's Rocket Equation. We may go as we please throughout the galaxy.

But how ???

In any model I have ever conceived of there is an equal and opposite reaction and the ostensible self-contained propulsion system ... propulses nought. I'm scratchin' my ass. What ... are ... you ... doing?

I have a deep and abiding faith in the simplicity of the universe. If this can be done, it should be done simply ... on my desktop. Maybe not full flying feathers at first ... but certainly I should be able to take a gram or two off some simple mechanical device. What must I do to accomplish this? The electromagnetic interaction is so thoroughly explored that I can conceive of nothing at all that wasn't thought of before so ... where is it? Something simple yet unnoticed ... for two hundred years ... by every eagle eyed experimenter everywhere engaged in entertaining the entire entourage of electromagnetic effects even to the extent of eyeballing the existensially exiguous elements. I am at my extremes.

I can say this much with some sense of certainty ...

"to violate conservation of linear momentum, one must change the direction of the inertial field for electromagnetically neutral matter within that field without causing an opposed and proportional change in the inertial field of the mechanism that caused the primary field change"

Thus, we could place neutral iron in a magnetic field ... then ... the iron would become magnetized and move toward the pole of the magnet ... but ... the magnetized iron would then cause an opposed change in the field of the original magnet and the whole contraption would go nowhere if set out in space. It would simply obey the law of conservation of linear momentum and stay in place. We need to affect matter without the affected matter having the reverse effect on that which caused the effect.

What we need is a device (chained to an object mass) which produces a field which affects the object mass causing it to move while the object mass does not produce a proportional counteracting field ... so that as the object mass moves, the chain connecting it to the device pulls the device along thus transporting the device field to be pulled along with it. Hmmmmmmmmmm ... This amounts to (in physics) having a mule pull a cart by dangling a carrot on a stick in front of the mule while you're riding on that cart !

Admittedly, by the general character of the universe as we know it, this is "dopey". Nevertheless, that is what seems to be required as a UFO propulsion system and is why few scientists will take the UFO phenomenon seriously ...

"It can't be, therefore, it isn't"
But I have to take it seriously because the evidence commands my attention.

So, for my first experiment ...

I'm going to suspend two magnets from a string, with poles opposed and let them rotate and see what happens. Nothing is supposed to happen ... but ... I have to do it anyway.

Here's the poop on this deal.

If I rotate a pail of water on a string, the water creeps up the sides of the pail by centrifugal force. This is Newton's method of "detecting an absolute reference frame". Well, at least it detects it to the extent of establishing a defined axis of rotation, i.e. if we apply relativity, the universe is rotating on that axis relative to the stationary pail. What I wish to do with the magnets (or somehow) is define a preferred direction along that axis ... north or south ... which establishes a unique direction that the object mass is to "fall" toward ... thereby towing my device along with it ... resulting in perpetual acceleration which in our gravitational field should produce a diminution of "weight" as measured by my balance. Like this ...

The basic idea is that the magnetic field will precess and thus alter somewhat the direction of the inertial field of whatever material is not magnetized. Because all of the matter is in a constant state of acceleration, it may "decide" that it ought accelerate out of the plane of rotation and thusly, pull the cart along with it! Well, remember, I said "somehow".

If workable, it could account for the rapid accelerations that witnesses observe in this way ...

Let's say there are 100 electromagnets on the rim of the saucer ... all with their north poles facing out away from the craft. Turn 'em on and spin the gizmo. The field precesses and the saucer rises because the centrifugal force is now directed up (or down, depending on the rotation direction) instead of radially as would be normal.

Now, suppose you flip half of the poles on one side of the ship. Now, they are pushing down while the others are up. They cancel on one side so the resultant centrifugal vector on that side is less than that on the other and the ship slips sideways like a bat outta' hell. (Bear in mind that you have to leave some residual "up" on both sides to keep the craft level and suspended in midair.)

The resultant vector "A" on the left side is thus less than the centrifugal vector "B" on the right side and the craft moves sideways. It can then go up, down, left, right with equal ease depending on how one adjusts the individual magnetic fields. And ... most importantly ... the amount of force that can reside in rotating matter is astronomical ... if ... one could manipulate it (check out my page about energy storage in a rotating wheel). You could get the 200g accelerations that are seen in UFOs. Here's a good link about the UFO's accelerative capabilities ... (Dr. Bruce Maccabee's site)

What about the passengers?

They'd be squashed against the walls of course. But that's another "matter". If there is one way to do this, there may be several ways. And we shouldn't forget that you don't have to accelerate all the matter in the craft by some esoteric method. You could reduce your power requirements by allowing the craft to take some of the stress in a standard acceleration (by being the cart pulled by the mule). After all, high tech metal should be able to take more G's than a human body or a loaf of bread.

Also, it should not be forgotten that a failure of conservation of linear momentum leads inexorably to a failure of energy conservation and the hypthetical "impulse engine" for generating energy from nothing (some people like to say zero-point energy because it's more sexy I guess). One of the drawbacks of such a device may be poor power output, i.e. you can generate an unlimited quantity of energy but to get enough all at once might require too big a power plant to bother accelerating all over the universe. With an impulse engine you'd basically have to let it rev up to speed ... then ... tap the available energy ... then ... rev it up again and keep repeating the process till you had enough. Or ... alternatively, you could have a smaller power plant and store energy in nuclear or chemical devices to have lots of instant energy on tap. This may be why some UFOs are seen to have an exhaust (but not all). They certainly didn't get from there to here with chemical rockets. More here in the middle of   > > this page

In fact, with an impulse engine and a suspension of linear momentum conservation, you could probably get from here to Alpha Centauri at near light speed for an energy cost of approximately a few tankfuls of gasoline! ... well, maybe railroad tank cars ;o) ... but it certainly wouldn't put a dent in the National Debt. I could probably afford the gas on my credit card.

Well, I'm basically ready psychologically and philosophically for ... failure ... (I have zero expectation for success). I am doing my best to find the truth and if I fail to do so the fault is entirely in me and not in my stars.

So, here goes nothin'

Feb26-39PL :
Well, I did the deed and indeed it did do diddlysquat. Measuring something that's moving with a fairly precise instrument is rather difficult. Things tend to fall apart ;o) but I was able to get good measurements that showed absolutely nothing. I couldn't even measure the difference in weight from the object mass dropping through the gradient which is the generator of the spinning motion. I couldn't get anything on the scale of the weight of a postage stamp on a three foot lever arm. Well, this doesn't rule out the idea entirely since my setup is so weak ... but it's certainly not encouraging.

One thing I did find out is that if you have a compass and hold it directly under a rotating magnet, the compass needle will rotate in lock step with the magnet's rotation regardless of the speed of the magnet's rotation. Not so for a compass outside of the circle directly underneath the spinning magnetic field. Here, the compass needle can be made to rotate in the opposite direction of the magnets at a speed of once per magnet revolution ... but only ... at a speed of about one revolution per second. In other words, if the magnets are rotating at one revolution per second, the compass needle tends to rotate once per second in the opposite direction. ( I don't think this would be true of a compass needle suspended in water because water would be too viscous to allow the needle to react quickly enough.)

However, if the magnets are rotating just a little faster, the compass needle will just oscillate back and forth over a few degrees of swing. This is because the needle is alternately pushed and pulled by opposing fields and if they are out of phase with the needle rotation, they tend to cancel further rotation of the needle. This effect seems to be pretty reliable so that if a person was near a UFO with a compass ... and not underneath it ... if his compass rotated at all it would mean that the rate of rotation of the field in the UFO was about once per second. If faster than this, it would vibrate with the frequency of magnetic rotation (maybe too fast to count?). I suppose that a really strong field might overpower the needle and have its way with it ... but ... magnetic field strength drops off far faster than the inverse square law and if you were some distance from the UFO with your compass, the field would be pretty weak no matter how strong it was at the source.

The field strength diminishes as 1/r2 from an individual pole but magnetic poles don't occur by themselves and the opposite pole counteracts somewhat the pole that is nearest you. So, the effect of that pole is diminished by the further out pole. In fact, the strength of the field diminishes something like the strength of the nuclear force (but not quite the same).

This UFO propulsion thing is going to be a tough nut to crack because the scientific community (that has all the sophisticated equipment) won't take the issue seriously. Consequently, there aren't many qualified people devising experiments and no significant money is chasing the solution. But the solution is definitely out there ... waiting.